Ethics behind saying students are unachievable of 100 on essays?

[pooker]

This goes out to all of you teachers.

Recently we had a test in one of our classes, it is world civilization 2. For our test we had 40 questions on a scantron , 15 fill in the blank with no word bank, and we were given three essay questions to study, on the day of the test he wrote two on the board and we had to write about one that was 2.5 pages long.

When we got our papers back, noone made a perfect score on the essay. He then informed us that noone would ever make a perfect score on the essay (30/30) and the only way to get that score is if HE himself wrote it. His reasoning was that an essay can never be to long (For reference I wrote 3.5 pages and made a 27/30 I will type it later and let you tell me).

He said your essay is excelent if you get a 29 out of 30 which noone I found out yet has gotten.


Whats your opinion?

In my eyes this is not fair, what about those of us who make up on our grades through the essay?

World civ 2 is by far my hardest class this semester and I thought it would be the easiest.

Do you think this is right or wrong? Poll to come. ;)

After he handed out tests he began to also name out grades saying that people who made these should drop since this was such a huge chunk of our grade.



:cry: pooker wants more points lol

[Honey]

Pooker I had an instructor tell us on the first day there would be no A's in her class. Well, let me tell you I would accept nothing less than an "A" on my stuff. Anyway I busted my butt in that class and when it looked like I would get an 'A' her grading seemed to get harder on my papers. (My opinion) Needless to say......I got a B. It made me work harder I should say.

[pooker]

Pooker I had a nursing instructor tell us on the first day there would be no A's in her class. Well, let me tell you I would accept nothing less than an "A" on my stuff. Anyway I busted my butt in that class and when it looked like I would get an 'A' her grading seemed to get harder on my papers. (My opinion) Needless to say......I got a B. I think one of two I recieved in Nursing. I can't remember the other class. It made me work harder I should say.

Thats unethical in my opinion, in todays college world a 3.5 gpa is considered average, what about people that want to be in nursing school? I have a friend that is going into it and you need a 3.0 gpa and a 21 on the act I believe.

What happens if every teacher tells you your not going to make this grade?

Its unethical in my opinion and it could really halt back alot of peoples futures. Their is a fine line between modivating a student to study harder and making them no longer care.


I went to go give him an infraction in class and I realised real world doesnt work like the internet. :smash:

[Guru]

I'm feeling ya Pooker. I too have had instructors say that it was impossible for someone to make 100 % on an exam. This is ridiculous.
My point was made when the instructor found out I was a resident expert with something like 20 more years experience and out debated him in a locking of horns.
To me it is highly unreasonable for an instructor to take this attitude especially when he or she has young minds that obviously are taking the class seriously and have presented this in an impressive manner.
It is a slap in the face of any student to have an instructor increase their grading stance just to have it turn out as they want.

[Fotno]

What's your teacher's name pooker?

[Hermione]

Pooker, this teacher's behavior is unethical. You should report this to the dean and then drop the class. For one thing, it's against the law to tell what people's grades are publicly, and this alone ought to get him fired. If he thinks people should drop, he needs to talk to them privately.
To give a test that no one can score perfectly is an exercise in sadism. It's a power trip, it's not teaching. The purpose of a test is to measure what students have learned, not how hard a teacher can be. A test can be hard, but if no one can score perfectly, then it's a bad test.
I'm serious -- you need out of that class, and that instructor needs to be reported.

PS I've been a college instructor (not a full time professor).

[BassCatter]

Hell Pook, I once had a professor fail me on an essay that was asking MY opinion, because it didn't align with his.

[BassCatter]

Herimone, the prof is prolly tenured.

[Hermione]

BC, I think Pook is at a JC. None of those faculty are tenured. In any case, reading out grades is still a violation of a specific law I can't remember the name of. You can't even post their grades with their student id numbers.

[katzeyez]

(((Pooker))))

It's unfortunate that an individual that is supposed to be teaching looks down on those that he is teaching. Having said that, I'm proud of you, and the effort you are making to do well in the class, it saddens me that it's not being appreciated or receiving its just credit grade wise.

[SoMissTV]

Hell Pook, I once had a professor fail me on an essay that was asking MY opinion, because it didn't align with his.

In fairness, you took a very unpopular opinion.

[bpitt]

Most college professor's are jerks/jerkette's. I said most, some are actually decent people. It seems that when you give someone a little authority, they get on trips, and end up abusing or misusing it. I can think of 2 college teachers that I actually liked, they rest were too weird or just plain buttholes.

I always think about that line in a movie whose name I can't remember. A student basically tells his instructor that he is teaching because he's too scared to go face the real world, lol!

But, there are a few good ones. Most seem to be in it for the pay/power.

[Hermione]

Most seem to be in it for the pay/power.

The PAY?? Surely you're joking!! The pay for most college professors and instructors in this part of the world is a joke. And for people without a PhD, it's a BAD joke. There's a reason I don't do it anymore!

[pooker]

I can't drop the class

I wanna be a teacher hermione , is the pay really that bad? Could I support myself without living from paycheck to paycheck?

[Hermione]

Well, I was talking about pay for college professors. Compared to other states, it's low in Mississippi. One of the teachers on here can tell you about their pay.